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spoetzl
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 Posted - 07/30/2010 : 14:52:28
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Which three would you keep and why?
Marques Colston - 6th Round
Derrick Ward - 8th
Ricky Williams - 9th
Roddy White - 10th
Lex Hilliard - 12th (UFA)
Louis Rankin - 12th (UFA)
Vince Young - 12th (UFA)
Devin Hester - 13th
Peyton Hillis - 14th |
Edited by - spoetzl on 08/09/2010 12:58:10 |
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LittleRockScott
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Posted - 07/31/2010 : 02:42:40
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Well, White and Colston are no brainers...top 12 WR's and great value for what round you'll need to give up drafting another player.
Final spot comes down to R Williams and Hester. If you thik RB's will be hard to come by, would keep Williams (even though at best he is RB #3). If not...Hester is intriguing in Martz's crazy pass happy offense.
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spoetzl
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Posted - 07/31/2010 : 14:57:36
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Thanks, LittleRock!
I agree on White and Colston. In this 14-team league, RB's are very difficult to come by (usually 2-3 other players taken in first two rounds), however after the top four RB's this year, there's a lot more uncertainty than usual IMO (of course, I have the 5th pick).
Starting two WR's and a flex, maybe this year I solidify the WR's with Hester, then draft five RB's in the first six rounds (usually just three of first four, depending on keepers). Ricky has plenty of competition, but after the inevitable injuries, does he repeat his performance? With his time off from football and his incredible health regimen, he's much younger than his age.
Anyone think there's future hope (next tow years?) for Rankin, Hilliard, or Hillis to become a starter? Does Young blossom, especially at 1 pt./10 yds. and 6 pt rushing TD's (vs. 4)?
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Edited by - spoetzl on 07/31/2010 15:01:19 |
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mrbaja
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Posted - 07/31/2010 : 18:37:34
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| A compelling argument for White, Colston, and Hester at those "values" ... then stock pile RBs as the draft unfolds. |
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LittleRockScott
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Posted - 08/01/2010 : 20:11:11
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I don't have any interest in Rankin (to far down Seattle depth chart) or Young (don't see him any better than a solid #2).
Hilliard is VERY intriguing. Brown has trouble staying healthy and Ricky is no young pup (though lkike yo said, he does have yoing legs somewhat). This was his preseason outlook from CBS:
Lex Hilliard finally got a chance to play in 2009, his second year in the NFL. When Ronnie Brown (foot) was lost for the season, Hilliard became the No. 2 running back for the Dolphins behind Ricky Williams. Hilliard had 23 carries for 89 yards (3.9 avg.) and one touchdown, catching 20 passes for 158 yards and two more touchdowns. Brown is expected to make a full recovery in time for the start of training camp, which would make Hilliard the No. 3 running back in Miami. But with Brown's injury history (he hasn't been able to finish two of the past three seasons) and Williams' age (33 to start the season), Hilliard could find himself with additional carries. He might be a running back to target off the waiver wire during the year. It also helps that Hilliard is in a contract year in 2010, albeit as a restricted free agent. (Updated 3/5/10)
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spoetzl
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 12:56:15
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So, it boils down to one of these three for the last spot:
Ricky Williams - 9th
Lex Hilliard - 12th
Devin Hester - 13th
...I'm leaning towards Ricky.
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LittleRockScott
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 13:24:03
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| I don't like Hester, but at 13th round that value is too much to pass up in Martz's offense. |
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lt789
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 14:48:04
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Originally posted by LittleRockScott
I don't like Hester, but at 13th round that value is too much to pass up in Martz's offense.
Has anyone's reputation lasted longer and for less reason than Martz's? |
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LittleRockScott
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 15:22:35
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Originally posted by lt789
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Originally posted by LittleRockScott
I don't like Hester, but at 13th round that value is too much to pass up in Martz's offense.
Has anyone's reputation lasted longer and for less reason than Martz's?
In wins and losses couldn't agree more. For fantasy purposes, anyone who made Mike Furrey relevent gives every WR on his team hope. |
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lt789
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 15:36:53
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Originally posted by LittleRockScott
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Originally posted by lt789
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Originally posted by LittleRockScott
I don't like Hester, but at 13th round that value is too much to pass up in Martz's offense.
Has anyone's reputation lasted longer and for less reason than Martz's?
In wins and losses couldn't agree more. For fantasy purposes, anyone who made Mike Furrey relevent gives every WR on his team hope.
I think Furrey was a one-off. Nothing else Martz did in his tenure in Detroit or SF (or even his last season or two in St. Louis) gives me any reason to hope he can turn fantasy lead into gold. |
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LittleRockScott
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 17:34:17
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| I hear ya LT...but in his last 9 years Martz's teams have averaged 280 passing yards. Cutler is a huge improvment over Kitna or Alex Smith/JT O Sullivan (great, thanks for making me something good about Cutler, ha!). I have to think 2 of there WR's will be a decent #2 or #3 WR with potential. Though I agree is that Hester, Knox, Aroshoamdu, or Bennett is an open question and they could end up doing a lot of cancelling each other out. Taking any of those guys is a risk, but to me the upside is there (I like Knox the best due to his success last year, playing with 1st team currently, and lots of speed). |
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SMars
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 18:33:06
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Originally posted by LittleRockScott
I hear ya LT...but in his last 9 years Martz's teams have averaged 280 passing yards. Cutler is a huge improvment over Kitna or Alex Smith/JT O Sullivan (great, thanks for making me something good about Cutler, ha!). I have to think 2 of there WR's will be a decent #2 or #3 WR with potential. Though I agree is that Hester, Knox, Aroshoamdu, or Bennett is an open question and they could end up doing a lot of cancelling each other out. Taking any of those guys is a risk, but to me the upside is there (I like Knox the best due to his success last year, playing with 1st team currently, and lots of speed).
Everything I have read has Knox being the guy in Chicago but we will see.
I would keep Ricky Williams. |
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spoetzl
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 15:43:46
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Originally posted by SMars
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Originally posted by LittleRockScott
I hear ya LT...but in his last 9 years Martz's teams have averaged 280 passing yards. Cutler is a huge improvment over Kitna or Alex Smith/JT O Sullivan (great, thanks for making me something good about Cutler, ha!). I have to think 2 of there WR's will be a decent #2 or #3 WR with potential. Though I agree is that Hester, Knox, Aroshoamdu, or Bennett is an open question and they could end up doing a lot of cancelling each other out. Taking any of those guys is a risk, but to me the upside is there (I like Knox the best due to his success last year, playing with 1st team currently, and lots of speed).
Everything I have read has Knox being the guy in Chicago but we will see.
I would keep Ricky Williams.
Knox seems to be the one turning heads and Bennett already has a rapport with Cutler from playing together at Vandy. I'm leaning towards Ricky also, though from my perspective, none of the three are likely to have a huge impact this season. The question then becomes, who has the chance to start and star in the future? Hilliard will be a restricted free agent...
This would be so much easier if I hadn't traded Forsett (as a 15th rounder, though I did get Colston). |
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LittleRockScott
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 16:09:25
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Originally posted by spoetzl
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Originally posted by SMars
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Originally posted by LittleRockScott
I hear ya LT...but in his last 9 years Martz's teams have averaged 280 passing yards. Cutler is a huge improvment over Kitna or Alex Smith/JT O Sullivan (great, thanks for making me something good about Cutler, ha!). I have to think 2 of there WR's will be a decent #2 or #3 WR with potential. Though I agree is that Hester, Knox, Aroshoamdu, or Bennett is an open question and they could end up doing a lot of cancelling each other out. Taking any of those guys is a risk, but to me the upside is there (I like Knox the best due to his success last year, playing with 1st team currently, and lots of speed).
Everything I have read has Knox being the guy in Chicago but we will see.
I would keep Ricky Williams.
Knox seems to be the one turning heads and Bennett already has a rapport with Cutler from playing together at Vandy. I'm leaning towards Ricky also, though from my perspective, none of the three are likely to have a huge impact this season. The question then becomes, who has the chance to start and star in the future? Hilliard will be a restricted free agent...
This would be so much easier if I hadn't traded Forsett (as a 15th rounder, though I did get Colston).
Think you can throw out the Cutler-Bennett rapport connection - it didn't do much for them last year.
I only view Hester as a lottery ticket this year and beyond. I should have said my endorsement of him over Ricky is less than enthusuiastic. 
After reading up on Hilliard...and finding little to no pub on his over say the last month, not as excited about him. Plus he;ll have additional backup competitiion against Cobb. |
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spoetzl
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Posted - 08/14/2010 : 22:06:25
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Any further thoughts?
I think I'm putting Ricky out there as a 9th rounder and final keeper. Potential value-wise, it's just okay. I'll have two good WR's, so I can still focus on RB values early, while having a solid flex/back-up already in place.
Anyone convince me otherwise?
I know that this is a recognizable Mr F League roster and a few might hesitate to chime in because of that. I really appreciate the ones who did. |
Edited by - spoetzl on 08/15/2010 03:55:04 |
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